Casey and Calley Means are sister and brother.  He is graduate of the Harvard Business School and worked as a lobbyist for Big Food and Big Pharma.  Casey was a graduate of Stanford Medical School who was pursuing surgical training in ENT before she dropped away from the Big Medicine career track.

As they explain their individual paths away from the moneyed careers before them to Tucker Carlson, they also discuss the ways in which the food, medical, and pharmaceutical industries work together to keep us all sick – and growing sicker.

Whatever you think of Tucker Carlson – watch this interview. If you are uninterested after the first 30 minutes, I would be surprised.